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Dec 20^th, 2011 at 3:57pm

Ok guys, if you have the patience, here we go.... with my OC,and AADD and general terror of doing something wrong this might take a while.. Tongue

Retracting landing gear is installed (yes Glen, with all bolts tightened and Loktited - blue, not red, I might have to remove one some day).. lines are run to the top of the wing...

As you can see, there is plenty room IN the wing to put the air tank there.. are there any great unthought of reasons to not put it there?? While it's very light it does move some weight forward..

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Reply #5 - Dec 21^st, 2011 at 11:19am

Yak Man wrote on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 9:34pm:

Nice looking job your doing there Fingers. Shocked

I don't thing you have enought locktite on the bolts. There going to fall out for sure Grin

In the "old days" before locktite, we smeared real dope over the bolts, and sometimes wired them after...never had a doped bolt come out.....

Marc its an ESM , 75in span, 30cc, same guys as built Capt. Cools spit. As you can see big mothering thick wing... that and the flaps should (I hope, hope, hope) make landings ok..
no room for a cockpit tho.

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Reply #7 - Dec 21^st, 2011 at 2:50pm

yup, saw that Glen, but if you follow the build on that neat cockpit he gets real cramped inside and has to move all the servos and the tank... with the 30cc on the front, and that carb sticking inside, running out of space anyway..... Tongue

plus I would like to fly this Hurricane sometime, and you know the cockpit would add ohhhhh about 3 years to the build... Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Jan 2^nd, 2012 at 10:39am

whitey wrote on Jan 1^st, 2012 at 5:03pm:

Nice Hurricane Sandy. I'm still in shock with the announcement that you purchased a helicopter. What is the world coming to?

Well, depending on whether you read Nostradamus, or follow the Incas or the Mayans, the world will (may) spin to an end this year, or maybe 2014. Or if you follow that nut case in California ( no not that one, the other one) it'll end the third Tuesday of next week....but I digress..
For the record....toy helicopters I don't mind, although there have been some self-declared fliers of them who have driven me to distraction over the years....

Real helicopters bother me a great deal - but that's a different story for a different time.. Tongue

AND, I didn't purchase a helicopter - Santa brought me one for Christmas.... Nya!! Wink

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Reply #16 - Jan 4^th, 2012 at 4:20pm

elevators are designed to be activated by wires - NOT!!!!! don't care if the original had cables for the controls, not going there... Angry

I have to relieve 2 formers to allow a CF tube with fittings on either end.
Mounted the tail wheel last night but it has to wait for the fitting of the CF tube to finalize the install of that gear...
like most ESM planes, lots of chicken and egg stuff - "this" needs "that" to fit first, but "that" needs "t'otherting" first and cant fit "t'otherting" until "this" is in..but "this" needs "that".. Tongue

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Reply #28 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

All right - how do I fix this!!!

Slid the stab tube into one side to hold the plywood drill template - easy in.... tried to pull it back out and the last 1/2 inch stuck briefly, then came out with a length of the socket attached!!!! Absolutely no muscle, just "here's your socket"... looks like ESM made the sockets out of the same stuff the wheel wells are made from - brittle resin.. Angry

Whaddui do??

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Reply #33 - Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Well now.... here's what I found - the tube goes in about 4 inches (10 cm) and passes through 2 ribs besides the outer end plywood rib...each of the two inner ribs has a plywood plate for reinforcement..so the sticky packing tape tube is just for direction. Huh

I mic'ed the stab tube at 31/64" or 62/128", (.4843") or 12.30 mm. aluminum, so off I went to the hobby shop to check out tubing. Of course there was lots of stuff close, but not close enough. Mike asked what I was up to and he took me to the basement (!) and showed me a pile of CF tubes about a meter long, sitting in a box in the corner.... after jumping with Glee, and Joy, and Mary, I mic'ed all them at *@#$*&?!@ 12.30mm. No freakin ciger. Angry

Turned around to leave and there's one other tube in another box, and it mic's at

12.29

. Well the math says that's .4839 or 30.5/64 (excuse the mixed metaphors please) so I brought it home..
That piece slides in that hole as slick and as tight as a *&%( in a $@*@**, but it does slide in. Since the plastic tube is directional only, I figgers I gotter made guys... Cheesy

.01 mm, or .0004 in, or 1/128 makes a world of difference ... Smiley

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Reply #38 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 9:11pm

Well, client year end is over, CCRA have their ~~blood~~ information, and we're back to "normal" Smiley

My oh my but AADD is a terrible thing sometimes.....the tears spilt over this part... Cheesy

now just put some lag bolts in, to hold it all together, change the CA hinges to Robarts I think, and then move on to the main wing, which is largely done - thread some wires and glue the 3 halves together Huh

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Danster wrote on Mar 25^th, 2012 at 1:37pm:

Ripping props? I doubt very few have actually heard a prop ripping and just simply mistake it for a "loud" prop. Two totally different things. If you want to hear a real prop ripping sound, ask Al to change the CF prop to a wooden one on his DA....

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Why thank you for that DanT Roll Eyes

......actually that is exactly what I was referring to.... during 1 IMAC season Capt. Cool was on the receiving end of some harsh words from He Who Speaks as God Wink

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Ripping props should be music to the ears of a Harvard enthusiast. Harvards would routinely spin their prop tips to supersonic speeds and make that distinctive sound of a Harvard at full power.

yes indeedy, that P&W R1340, with all of 550 - 600 hp and a direct drive prop could surely churn up the noise level Smiley

...... a seeming high noise level for the 140 mph cruise Tongue

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #53 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 8:08pm

All right, back to the thread... as all ESM'ers know, this started out as a SNAFU. With my able assistance it soon became a FUBAR, but finally we arrived at TLAR. Lots of firsts on this plane for me, starting with retracts... However, we now have the surfaces to hinge and hook up, servos are in, find a place for the retract valve, fit the cowl, blah, blah, blah....
We are now at T.F. Bundy.

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Reply #57 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

Fingers wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 8:08pm:

All right, back to the thread... as all ESM'ers know, this started out as a SNAFU. With my able assistance it soon became a FUBAR, but finally we arrived at TLAR. Lots of firsts on this plane for me, starting with retracts... However, we now have the surfaces to hinge and hook up, servos are in, find a place for the retract valve, fit the cowl, blah, blah, blah....
We are now at T.F. Bundy.

For me this is progress.... Cheesy

So will it be ready for the Cape Breton trip of 2013? Grin

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Reply #61 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 8:46am

Steve Mosher wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 6:38pm:

Great looking plane - gonna look awesome in the air!

Thanks Steve, I think it'll look better in the air than it will on the ground, at least once.. Wink

That darn wing is 3" (7.5 cm to those inclined) thick at the joint so there should be tons of landing "float", and except for one guy on RCU who tried scale 80 deg flaps (!) everyone else thought it flew and landed pretty good. Dan and Cool are already slavering over the thought of a Hurricane, Spitfire and P-40 flying cover for a B-25....
At 81" span I'm a bit smaller than their planes and running at 1/6 scale; I think they're 1/5.
I've got the air tank in the wing, am I supposed to fit the valve in there as well? Or sit it on top.

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Reply #62 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 8:48am

Joe Di Profio wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 8:27am:

Had a look at it last night. Thinking on how to repair some of the buckling in the side of it. After the 3rd time I CAed Angry

my fingers to the fuse, I almost pressed the purchase button on the Aeroworks 30cc at GH. Will make another attempt tonight.

PS- Wife is away all weekend, so I may make more progress.

hard to press keys with a fuse stuck to your hands.....

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Reply #63 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 10:22am

Nice looking Hurricane Sandy.
Looking forward to seeing it go on it's first mission.

As far as the air distribution valve is concerned, try to fit it in the fuse on the ply tray where the servos are installed.
You need to make sure that it is mounted very securely.
Using good linkages (no slop at all) and a short pushrod will make your air actuator function more reliably.

Do you have all your air connectors and air lines?
Using Robarts is a good choice.

Hope this helps

The air inlet valve(where you add the air) can be installed on the belly of the plane if you choose, or the side.
At least it's out of site on the bottom. That's where I put it.

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Reply #65 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 10:49am

I was hoping, with the tank in the wing, to get the valve in there as well....that way everything is in one piece/place and "no connectors". And yup I'm using robart. If there's room, I'm going to try and get the fill valve in the back of that huge radiator structure under the wing..again, eliminating a connector.

Now, what does a Hurricane gun sight look like.........MikeP, paging MikeP, where's MkIX when you need him..

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Reply #66 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 10:52am

whitey wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 10:44am:

Hey Sandy. I have a neat little trick for an air pump. You may already know this, but you simply take the inflator pin for inflating basketballs and footballs and slip it into some soft plyable airline. Then run the airline to your Robart connector. I use one of those cheap Crappy Tire 12 volt air pumps.

I have the Crappy Tire (aka Canjan Tire) pump, and the valve on it is a screw fit on the Robart valve for the air....works slick as a mmmmmm Lips Sealed

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Reply #68 - Apr 27^th, 2012 at 10:20pm

Fingers wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

whitey wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

Joe, you may surprise yourself if you rolled up your sleeves and tackled that Extra. You can probably do more than you think Wink

of course he could, but that darn parrott whispering in his ear got him pshyced...

Parrot???? What Parrot???? Huh

Hmmmmm!!! Do I sense a new handle bewing in the air for Joe.?? Grin

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Reply #72 - Nov 7^th, 2012 at 7:56pm

Hi Sandy:

Here a link to a few good pictures of the GM2 Mk.II gun sight

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=54193

It was used by both the Spitfire and the Hurricane prior to the arrival of the gyro sights. Earlier versions of the Mk.II have a circular sight glass. Select the glass shape depending on which variant you are modelling. Use the link below to determine which sight you need.

http://gunsight.jp/b/english/data/sight-e-e.htm

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Reply #77 - Dec 16^th, 2012 at 2:13pm

ok, tail is done - under that screwed down cover is everything including a kitchen sink...very crowded Angry

Servos are installed and the wires are hooked up - both elevator and rudder going in the correct direction Smiley

Next is put an arm on the throttle and hook up a servo, then do something with the choke - I'd like a servo on it but not sure if there's enough room..... Undecided

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Reply #84 - Dec 17^th, 2012 at 11:42am

Well, if I get the hemostats out, Wink

(and find the small vice grips I'm missing) Angry

and put the ignition and battery on the front of the firewall, I think then I'm down to about 2.5 pounds Grin

The big spinner is aluminium with a solid back plate, the 3 blade prop is heavier ( and maybe I could put weights in the blades like the helicopter guys do) Roll Eyes

The main flight pack will slide right up against the firewall on the inside so maybe I'm down to about 2 pounds...oooh oooh oooh and I have an old Harry Higley heavy hub...maybe i could drill and tap it and put it under the spinner............naw Tongue

Plus the air tank is in the wing instead of behind in the fuse, so that weight is moved forward to just behind the spar ( 1 oz. x 6 inches)

All adds up, or down Huh

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Reply #86 - Dec 17^th, 2012 at 12:58pm

JackDD wrote on Dec 17^th, 2012 at 12:47pm:

Sandy,
It sounds like the maiden flight is close at hand Roll Eyes

You should sight the Gun sight in first...Luckily I have done this in a previous life... Wink

However, it might be tight getting the Hawker tail jack to fit in. Shocked

Heck Jack.... I can sit this darn thing ON the tail jack Grin

What I really want now is a picture of what the gun barrels looked like on the wing....this isn't a tank buster so the long barrels don't work.... like to know what these browning guns looked like on the business end... Huh

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Is this what you are looking for?

Fingers wrote on Dec 17^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

I don't blame them one little bit for keeping the mad Scot away from the noisy end Jack.....

but hoping someone has a picture of that end.....noisy gun end, not noisy Jack end Lips Sealed

just what did the muzzle look like - flared? scalloped? tapered? big "bang" flag hanging off?

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well, slide it back another 1/8 inch and we're OK here....bit of a gap but I noticed some real ones do have a gap (that's my story and I'm sticking to it). Angry

Unfortunately, where the real Hurri has a sheet metal oil deflector on the top front of the cowl ESM put a molded lip - quite thick Tongue

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well, got the darn thing to fit...engine may be out a tad too far but that's what I get with the standoffs I have.... (need the weight forward anyway) Too bad the plane is painted in Tangmere colours - they were never in Africa. I could hide the engine head with a sand filter under the cowl but Sandford-Tuck was strictly an Island guy.

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Reply #96 - Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 8:46pm

Hi Sandy:

I don't have as much info on the Hurricane as I do for another British fighter from the same period Wink

. But here is what I have been able to find in my library on the guns when mounted in a Hurricane. I'm afraid I'm not sure what the little cuffs on the end of the barrels are. They could be part of the machine gun assembly, or they could simply be little covers to keep the sand out while the ground crew work on the guns.

The guns were set back in the wing far enough that none of the barrel ends extended beyond the leading edge, but you didn't have to look too far down the port to see the business end of the Brownings. I suspect you already know that.

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Reply #111 - Jun 28^th, 2013 at 9:23am

welll, "etc" starts with an E so that's out.......

throttle, choke, muffler, finish hacking the cowl, Angry

when I was a kid, lllooonnngggg before there were syndromes and disorders, my dad used to say " that boy's mind wanders so bad he'll wake up in Greenwood and he's not even out of bed yet......." ...welll this thing'll do that to you in spades.... Cheesy

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Reply #116 - Nov 11^th, 2013 at 4:20pm

Well now....
getting another engine that allowed the rear exhaust crated a whole whack of stuff Hit Palm

that "voided" a lot of the inside and front progress I'd made...anyway...new rear muffler set-up wouldn't allow the simple straight line choke I'd set up. AND, there's really not much room in the fuse for either another servo or a 90 deg bell crank..these chinese "arfs" should come with your own factory worker who has small hands to get inside.. Im Happy

SO - ignition is above the tank, (beneath in the attached pic) in front of the former you can see - single battery is in a box that goes right to the firewall and is held in with velcro.

along the top of the tank you can see a red nyrod with a piece of yellow flex bending around the back of the tank, running across to the other side of the fuse..inside the yellow tube is steel cable attached to the choke. It exits the side of the fuse beside the wire for the on/off switch....bit stiff, but does work Smiley

Now that THAT seems resolved, I find the retract system isn't holding air anymore... Wall Bash

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Reply #118 - Nov 11^th, 2013 at 9:55pm

Well, way too much gap behind spinner - price to pay for no muffler cut out on the side of the cowl I guess. Might be able to play games with stand offs and washers... Beating A Dead Horse

On the other hand, choke isn't too obtrusive on the side.... it may help when I paint it. Actually gonna see if there is a smaller collar available...like on that's tighter on the cable..

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Reply #120 - Nov 12^th, 2013 at 12:10pm

argus wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

"...progress..."

is sometimes over rated, that's why 1 step forward, 2...

"these chinese "arfs" should come with your own factory worker who has small hands to get inside.."

So, you need a Mini-Fingers? Grin

exactly Smiley

my arthritic ol' pinkies just don't fit anywhere anymore...forEX..... the engine had to be on with the muffler, throttle and choke linkages connected, and the ignition had to be in above where the tank goes, so the ignition cut switch had to be on, then the choke set-up wrapped around the tank which isn't in yet then the tank lines have to be fished through but there's no room around the carb and linkages to get at the lines fromthetankwhichhasgoovertheignitionandhte............ Margaree Night

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Reply #121 - Nov 15^th, 2013 at 9:20am

Know what you mean about not being able to get digits into small places.

First assignment at P&WC, they started me off in Deburr-deburring and blending the sharp edges left after the machining centres had shaped the parts. After a week and a half, powers that be decided to ship me to "Arts and Crafts" (Paint Shop), because I couldn't get the burrs down in the real small holes, because of my large pinkies.

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Reply #130 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 12:28pm

Steve Mosher wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

Great looking plane, Sandy!

thank you sir, it would be right some nice flying in twomation with a B-25! If some other guys wanted to join up and make it a 3mation or even a formation would be sweet!!

Notice it looks beat up already, and i haven't even done any weathering yet...(done a lot of whethering though Wink

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Reply #133 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 3:30pm

Fingers wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 3:58pm:

well I was complaining about the gap between the spinner and the cowl............ the coolman made a new backplate that has a 1/4 inch inset in the back....check this out!!!!!

manomanomanoman

not only improved gap, but a bit heavier as well to help with the balance Smiley

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Reply #135 - Mar 24^th, 2014 at 4:06pm

administrator wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Great job on the back plate Al. Sandy that makes the model look 100% better. Amazing how the little things make a big difference in the presentation, Great job!!!

Bruce

two other guys involved - Todd suggested I build up the back plate with balsa, the Cool improved on that idea with a metal plate - all i had to do was go to Metal-R-Us and buy a piece of stock (most of which is in a bucket in Cool's shop)

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Reply #144 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 11:05am

Glen wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

Sandy, you can always go the sporting goods way, and epoxy some shotgun shot into the cowl.

rather epoxy it into a box on the firewall - not keep on 3 pounds hanging around IN the cowl. And just thought Bright Idea

can we get lead shot any more? Thought there was some problem from environmentalists afraid lead shot might do harm to the creatures we're shooting with the lead shot..... the lead is toxic Cheesy

however, 1/8 lead sheet is 8 lbs per sq ft. so guess I have to do some figgerin' and see what size pieces I can laminate around the engine to get almost 3 lbs

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Reply #146 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

Steve Mosher wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Why don't do what I did? Say the heck with it, get 5 flights, cut one wing 95% through at night and then have the wing fail in a spectacular fashion with lots of people watching. That's how you treat an ESM product!! Then you won't have these worries. Grin

problem is Steve, with almost 3 pounds missing from the front end I'd get a fairly short portion of only 1 flight and have a spectacular finally (finale) to the ESM Undecided

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #158 - Apr 13^th, 2014 at 2:38pm

Well, we're getting close..
apparently, when you try to make the noisy thingy do it's thing, you need something on the front for the Armstrong starter to engage... Wink

If it's too small the noisy thingy goes too fast and overheats Sad

If it's too big the noisy thingy bogs down and overheats Shocked

Can't win here. Angry

I took the 3 blade 17x8 off and put a 2 blade Falcon 18x8 on just for something to hang on to, and after a bit of Armstronging made some noise.. Cheesy

Two 10 minute runs at about 3000 - pretty rich, gas everywhere.. Huh

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #169 - May 13^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

OK, have a 3 pound slug of lead, little better than 3x2x1.... big question, does epoxy take to lead? I can maybe get the slug behind the firewall in front of a former, will epoxy secure it there? I could drill a bunch of holes in the slug, pour a load of epoxy into the space and drop the slug in, OR should i split the slug into smaller strips and put it in that way?? Undecided

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #173 - May 14^th, 2014 at 8:34am

Yak Man wrote on May 13^th, 2014 at 8:10pm:

What happen to the edit button?

update your session, then you can edit......

there is no room behind the engine to attached lead to the firewall, this space is taken up by muffler.....immediately behind the firewall there is a space in front of the wing saddle. I can get the lead in there but no way to secure it other than 1) adhesive or 2) jam it with lots of foam rubber.

I can take the 3x2x1 slug and slice it into 3x1x1 strips and get in the space OK... should I drill ton of holes in the lead, soak it in epoxy, insert and pour epoxy over it, or use silicone.
Other alternative is to attach it to the top of the engine stand offs ( not much room there but can be done) and it's close to interfering with the throttle arm on the carb.....

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #176 - May 16^th, 2014 at 3:57pm

Well it does indeed fly................. Lets Party

Nerve wracking as he** but with Cool on the trims (123 clicks right aileron and 221 down ) I was able to get in the air, fly around for 7 or 8 life times and get back on the ground successfully.
By the time I landed the idle had loosened up and was too high so I landed long, bent one of the ESM axles, but no major problems. But as the plane went by at 5 feet and 5 or 6 mph I realized the pleasant surprise that landing the thing isn't going to be an issue (no flaps either).

This is a post flight picture, there are no in flight because the camera crew got bored and walked away to put together his own plane. (It's Ok Todd, i won't tell anyone). In fairness, I kept the thing so high i doubt he could have got anything between take off and landing... Rock

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #181 - May 16^th, 2014 at 6:59pm

yup

hardly noticed the over sized stab spar Angry

, the jammed tail space full of elevator and rudder cables Shocked

, the 3 pounds of lead behind the firewall, nor the rear muffler interfering with the overflow and plug wire and no where's else to put any of it.... Cheesy

course, at the height I was flying it was difficult to just notice the plane... Wink

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Reply #183 - May 16^th, 2014 at 9:21pm

have a few good shots of the Spit Mike, will get them on soon...unfortunately we didn't get up together.
By the time we identified all the little friggley things I have to tighten/locktite/reroute/tie down I decided to stick with just one flight...

that plus the engine didn't want to start.... brand new rich/lean/stubborn ( I'm not going up with him flying this thing again).....

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Reply #185 - May 31^st, 2014 at 2:15pm

Well Cool made me a pair of #5 steel axles, I discovered the ball links on the servo end of the elevator wires were not the good ones but cheap, shiny plastic CFA ones, and the balls were sticking in the sockets - replaced them.. & made a proper overflow set up with a loop over top of the tank (kinda).

Didn't like the inertia or momentum of a single 3 pound chunk of lead so cut it into 3 equal chunks, filled the gap behind the firewall with commercial silicone and dropped the 3 slaps in. Once everything cures the lead ain't going no where....except out the bottom.. Cry

Fuse is 8 lb 6
wing is 7 lb 9
lead is 3 lb 0

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Reply #187 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 8:55am

take offs Ok Todd...lots of pull in that 3 blade prop Smiley

Unfortunately, my wave-off yesterday was initiated about 1 foot too low Angry

(lots of inertia in 19 pounds) and the gear didn't like that too much Wall Bash

4tunatly what came apart was mostly Chinese (ESM) plywood that doesn't seem to have been glued anyway Margaree Night

some delicate manipulation with probes and Xacto blades will see most of it slide back together, although some gentle pounding of struts with a fiber hammer is required..

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Reply #192 - Mar 31^st, 2015 at 12:59pm

Well, last flight last year saw the gear snag something on takeoff - plane turned to the right, then rolled 540 deg and landed on its top..... Bed Time

one gear pulled out, wing split at the joint (actually the cheap chinese plywood came apart ) and some cosmetic damage to sheeting. So, drill some extra anti twist dowel holes, about pound of hysol, lots of clamps, no Swear Word

problem at all..

Fuse has some de-laming, so pour some thinned fiberglass resin in and slosh it around... Wall Bash

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Reply #195 - Apr 1^st, 2015 at 7:03pm

I do believe, if I make a jig slightly longer than the wing, with end plates that cup the wing tips. Wooden formers in the center area to hold the TOP of the wing (with wing inverted of course). Now one wing tip cup will be slightly adjustable in and out.... Huh Sign

I use the master rib jig left over from the destruction/manufracture and drill several more dowel holes in both panel ends, clean up the splintered ply rib, and epoxy the extra dowels in place. excited

THEN I might be able to slather everything with hysol, shove it together, invert it on the jig, tie the center down and use shims to tighten up the one tip cup. Let it dry overnight and voila, This is Good

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Reply #196 - Apr 5^th, 2015 at 12:50pm

Well, panels apart....at this point i will entertain a motion to make the wing 3 piece, if someone comes up with a viable plan... Huh

Obviously the chinese plywood has delaminated ( it's about as good as their 6061 aluminium) Angry

but with dowels pining everything, and some careful clean up, it will go back.... Raa Raa

The ripple in the covering behind the wheel well is a simple crack in the sheeting, no biggie Im Happy

interesting observation, there is NO glue on the spar. I was so sure I had poured epoxy into each of the 4 slots, but obviously missed at least 1. ESM brain fart yet again...

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Reply #198 - Sep 19^th, 2016 at 2:51pm

I've dilly daddled long enough....plus, Todd had some ideas on fixing the fuse. These ESM planes are known for the lack of resin holding the outside stuff to the inside stuff of the fuse Huh Sign

....STUFF is a very technical aircraft design and construction term (see sh**, cr**) When the plane twisted and dumped, the fuse eggshelled, or delaminated in places. Todd has a technique Raa Raa

Plus, MAN recently ran a motivating article on fixing wings, so away we go...

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Fingers YaBB Moderator I still got all five! Offline Forum User LastOn: Yesterday Join: Mar 22^nd, 2010 Posts: 3,089 Reputation: 0 Dartmouth Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 3 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #201 - Oct 18^th, 2016 at 12:20pm Well, sloshed a pile of resin around inside the fuse, and it was actually seeping out those holes and cracks that are visible in the finish..I put a piece of cloth inside along the bottom seam - now it's sand, sand, fill, and then sand so I can cover the whole thing with .75 cloth...
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Re: Hurricane
Reply #202 - Oct 19^th, 2016 at 7:27pm

Fingers wrote on Oct 18^th, 2016 at 12:20pm:

Well, sloshed a pile of resin around inside the fuse, and it was actually seeping out those holes and cracks that are visible in the finish..I put a piece of cloth inside along the bottom seam - now it's sand, sand, fill, and then sand so I can cover the whole thing with .75 cloth...

Weight going to be an issue?

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Re: Hurricane
Reply #206 - Oct 30^th, 2016 at 12:32pm

same breaks, some filler and sanding done....at some point I'll resin it. You can really see the cracks in the side
Likely be impossible to match the paint, so Benjamin Moore here I come - 2 quarts of exterior latex semi gloss - air brush the whole thing then new markings from Callie.....although masks for painted markings spins my prop..

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Reply #209 - Mar 13^th, 2017 at 3:47pm

OK, decided to glass the wing - had some repairs on the skin anyway. Was laughing when I called Cool today, never realized the wing was open bay!! Never realized because the top is sheeted. Grin

I know, shup Ben!.
Anyway, peeled the bottom covering off and repaired some of the bottom cosmetic. The gear block is the biggest problem, so some effort will go into that. Can easily make inserts for the holes.... little sanding, and off we go..
While open, I discovered another little ESM hiccup. While I drilled the hinge holes in the spots indicated in the manual, notice that NONE of them hit the doubler blocks inside Roll Eyes

. Guess I'll Gorilla some blocks over the inside of them.

Went to Benjamin Moore and got a litre of paint matched to the bottom colour -= just about perfect match..Exterior Latex Flat.

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Fingers YaBB Moderator I still got all five! Offline Forum User LastOn: Yesterday Join: Mar 22^nd, 2010 Posts: 3,089 Reputation: 0 Dartmouth Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 3 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #212 - Mar 20^th, 2017 at 9:36pm Gear plates back in. Front one cleaned up and reused; rear one replaced. The damaged leading edge can be replace now that I've something to tie it to. Also, one of the joys of taking the top off the wing, there's lot's of access to put in triangle stock and plenty of other bracing
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Fingers YaBB Moderator I still got all five! Offline Forum User LastOn: Yesterday Join: Mar 22^nd, 2010 Posts: 3,089 Reputation: 0 Dartmouth Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 3 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #213 - Apr 5^th, 2017 at 3:01pm New Leading edge on, give me something to tie the new sheeting to. At the same time I put 1" sq. reinforcing cubes around the Robart hinges that weren't hitting the factory blocks...
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Fingers YaBB Moderator I still got all five! Offline Forum User LastOn: Yesterday Join: Mar 22^nd, 2010 Posts: 3,089 Reputation: 0 Dartmouth Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 3 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #216 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 12:15pm Well who knew???? Seems a shop vac has a bit of pull!! Final vac before glassing the bottom, and the vac pulled up a piece of sheeting - thank you ESM So bit more glue, bit more sanding, wipe down with acetone, THEN glass
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Reply #219 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 4:08pm

Bottom of wing glassed - now I know why they tell you to do the bottom first.....FUBER's not as visible. Note to self; "THIN the darn Epoxy before applying!!"

Almost ready to do the top, got distracted - the Hurricane had a cover over the joint on the wing, light aluminium likely. Sice my joining job is less than stellar, why not an aluminium cover......shape needs a bit of work, but after the glass is on and sanded...why not?

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Reply #220 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 7:27pm

Almost there!! Top is pretty good....for a War Bird. Got some advice from an expert on War Birds...
Don't sweat the bottom of the wing. Do it "all right" paint it then wipe it down with thinned clear with a "tad" of "oily stuff". The darn planes leaked oil and hydraulic like sieves anyway.
Top of wing, minor dimples get filled with the oily stuff, and dents on the leading edge get dry brushed with aluminum.....
That's my story and I'm sticking to it... Angry

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Reply #222 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 4:09pm

First run at first colour on top.....I know there are those of you aware that the British had paint schemes specified as pattern "A" and "B" in the early years of the war.....some will take a look and determine my efforts don't really look like either.

Another, less documented pattern was the "ESM" pattern, and that is represented here Roll Eyes

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