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waverider Aerobatic Pilot The Great White Flounder Offline Frozen Solid LastOn: Aug 7^th, 2020 Join: Nov 8^th, 2010 Posts: 499 Reputation: 0 Edmonton Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 1 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #140 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:16am We used to use something called GEC heavy metal for aircraft mass balances It has a specific gravity of 18 (I do not suggest depleted uranium ) It's just that the sg of lead isn't all that great Maybe something more modern exists at a good price It's hard to find space for a chunk of lead Good luck
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Fingers YaBB Moderator I still got all five! Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Mar 22^nd, 2010 Posts: 3,093 Reputation: 0 Dartmouth Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 3 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #141 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 9:27am problem is, Google GEC heavy metal and you get pages of info on bands that purport to play music of a specific genre, little or nothing on where to find metal. Metal R Us don't list it ........ yet another ESM quandry
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Glen Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: May 2^nd, 2024 Join: Aug 5^th, 2011 Posts: 442 Reputation: 2 Sackville Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #142 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am Sandy, you can always go the sporting goods way, and epoxy some shotgun shot into the cowl.
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waverider Aerobatic Pilot The Great White Flounder Offline Frozen Solid LastOn: Aug 7^th, 2020 Join: Nov 8^th, 2010 Posts: 499 Reputation: 0 Edmonton Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 1 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #143 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:28am http://www.google.com/patents/US4938799 Heavy tungsten alloys can be machined I don't know where you would find scrap GEC heavy metal was around in 1969 I remember using it Creak groan fart sniffle
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Re: Hurricane
Reply #144 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 11:05am

Glen wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

Sandy, you can always go the sporting goods way, and epoxy some shotgun shot into the cowl.

rather epoxy it into a box on the firewall - not keep on 3 pounds hanging around IN the cowl. And just thought Bright Idea

can we get lead shot any more? Thought there was some problem from environmentalists afraid lead shot might do harm to the creatures we're shooting with the lead shot..... the lead is toxic Cheesy

however, 1/8 lead sheet is 8 lbs per sq ft. so guess I have to do some figgerin' and see what size pieces I can laminate around the engine to get almost 3 lbs

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Steve Mosher Club Member Offline LastOn: Apr 3^rd, 2024 Join: Mar 24^th, 2010 Posts: 461 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 4	Re: Hurricane Reply #145 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 12:35pm Why don't do what I did? Say the heck with it, get 5 flights, cut one wing 95% through at night and then have the wing fail in a spectacular fashion with lots of people watching. That's how you treat an ESM product!! Then you won't have these worries.
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Reply #146 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

Steve Mosher wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Why don't do what I did? Say the heck with it, get 5 flights, cut one wing 95% through at night and then have the wing fail in a spectacular fashion with lots of people watching. That's how you treat an ESM product!! Then you won't have these worries. Grin

problem is Steve, with almost 3 pounds missing from the front end I'd get a fairly short portion of only 1 flight and have a spectacular finally (finale) to the ESM Undecided

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Glen Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: May 2^nd, 2024 Join: Aug 5^th, 2011 Posts: 442 Reputation: 2 Sackville Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #147 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 6:33pm Sandy, you're right, they've mostly moved on to steel shot, but you can still find lead occasionally. Oh, and you'll need 3/8 of that sheet or 37 % to get your 3lbs. Do you have the lead already ?
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Glen Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: May 2^nd, 2024 Join: Aug 5^th, 2011 Posts: 442 Reputation: 2 Sackville Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #149 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 7:10pm Or use a scale like I do Do you have the lead already ????
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Glen Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: May 2^nd, 2024 Join: Aug 5^th, 2011 Posts: 442 Reputation: 2 Sackville Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Hurricane Reply #152 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 8:10am If you're not in a rush, I think I can come up with some Monday.
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Reply #158 - Apr 13^th, 2014 at 2:38pm

Well, we're getting close..
apparently, when you try to make the noisy thingy do it's thing, you need something on the front for the Armstrong starter to engage... Wink

If it's too small the noisy thingy goes too fast and overheats Sad

If it's too big the noisy thingy bogs down and overheats Shocked

Can't win here. Angry

I took the 3 blade 17x8 off and put a 2 blade Falcon 18x8 on just for something to hang on to, and after a bit of Armstronging made some noise.. Cheesy

Two 10 minute runs at about 3000 - pretty rich, gas everywhere.. Huh

NOW, where the heck do I hang 2 pounds 14oz of lead??? Not much room up here...

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