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Reply #60 - Aug 26th, 2013 at 6:53pm
 
Well, finally the neighbour with the table saw got my stringers cut - from clear pine  Smiley

Now the good news; up above some where I noted that the spruce stringer weighed 9.5 gms each on the pivot scale I set up. Well the pine only weights 7gm on the same 46 inch pivot  Rock Rock

So all 54 pine stringers will weigh .83119 lb at the tail, a savings of .306 lbs at the tail. AND, with my nose to tail ratio of 5.411,  an additional 1.655 lb to balance at the nose...total weight savings of 1.961 lb.  Huh Sign

So without doing anything I've built almost 2 lb "off" the final weight  Canada Flag Lets Party Canada Flag

Gotta love it when something seems to work out... Angry
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Reply #61 - Aug 26th, 2013 at 7:15pm
 
Smiley Smiley Smiley Looking good, Sandy!
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Reply #62 - Aug 27th, 2013 at 7:42pm
 
Well, starting the stringers  Angry all 54 of 'em! After the top center one is in, everything else is pairs.... don't know if it's visible on the front view, but there is a line up mark on the table under the firewall, and I'm also lined up with a seam on the wall behind (actually the picture is slightly to one side)... so place a pair of stringers on...check the alignment, glue the front 2 formers, check the alignment, glue 2 more...and etc... Wall Bash

In front of the sloping "head rest former" on top there should be a solid sheet, but I'm going to put in a cockpit  Naaah so I'm doubling up the stringers along there to hopefully reinforce things enough.
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Reply #63 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 10:18am
 
I heard that some Chinese ARF manufacturers visited this site.  apparently their screams were heard in Vietnam and elsewhere.  Rumor has it they are going to double the weight of their ARFs ( in a vein attempt to introduce quality and precision.
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Reply #64 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 10:30am
 
over the years lots of screams have been heard in Viet Nam... no one cared  Angry

Brian, I've spent a lot  Violin Whine of time trying to figure out how to build this thing lighter but no joy Angry   Massive firewall, but I need the weight to balance the tail  Beating A Dead Horse Various versions have been reported from 22 pounds to 35 pounds  Anyone

I hope to hit the 25 lb mark - might be achievable because some of the '80s building techniques are "heavy", but there seem to be practical limits to how much can be taken off... Cry
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Reply #65 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 10:32am
 
waverider wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 10:18am:
( in a vein attempt to introduce quality and precision.



I'd like to introduce some quality and precision, but it is me we're talking about here  Thanks
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Reply #66 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:43pm
 
Fingers wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 10:30am:
over the years lots of screams have been heard in Viet Nam... no one cared  Angry

Brian, I've spent a lot  Violin Whine of time trying to figure out how to build this thing lighter but no joy Angry   Massive firewall, but I need the weight to balance the tail  Beating A Dead Horse Various versions have been reported from 22 pounds to 35 pounds  Anyone

I hope to hit the 25 lb mark - might be achievable because some of the '80s building techniques are "heavy", but there seem to be practical limits to how much can be taken off... Cry



I was trying to indicate what a great job you are doing.

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Reply #67 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 10:25pm
 
waverider wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:43pm:
I was trying to indicate what a great job you are doing.



Nah, don't do that Brian.  You know how all that praise goes to Finger's head.  Grin Grin Grin  Bow to the Master
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Reply #68 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:01am
 
waverider wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:43pm:
Fingers wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 10:30am:
over the years lots of screams have been heard in Viet Nam... no one cared  Angry

Brian, I've spent a lot  Violin Whine of time trying to figure out how to build this thing lighter but no joy Angry   Massive firewall, but I need the weight to balance the tail  Beating A Dead Horse Various versions have been reported from 22 pounds to 35 pounds  Anyone

I hope to hit the 25 lb mark - might be achievable because some of the '80s building techniques are "heavy", but there seem to be practical limits to how much can be taken off... Cry



I was trying to indicate what a great job you are doing.




wasn't flaming you Brian... if I could combine precision and quality, AND lighten the 4kn thing up, I'D be selling plans for it.... frustrating to have this great looking planform, and know that weight thingy is always there.... Time to Build
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Reply #69 - Aug 30th, 2013 at 11:02am
 
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Nah, don't do that Brian.  You know how all that praise goes to Finger's head.  Grin Grin Grin  Bow to the Master



praise me, c'mon praise me.... just a little eh? C'mon ya buggers.. Lets Go Fun Bat What Was That
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Reply #70 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 3:21pm
 
and every once in a while I like to pop the cowl on and dream a bit.. Thinking

something else I'm doing a bit different...plans call for the stringers to be 1/8 x 1/4, which makes them flush with the edges of the formers - then once the sheeting is on the front and under the tail tack a 1/8 square balsa strip on each stringer make them flush with the new sheeting to give that "stringer" look..what I'm doing, is making the stringers 1/8 x 3/8. I put them on, mark where the sheeting will end, then I'm stripping each stringer back to the 1/4..
they fit flush up front, but present as stringers along the back sides...  Huh Sign  That's about as clear as mud isn't it...

If you look closely, you can see the notched stringers starting at former 7, the second of the half formers..in pic 1, right above the battery pack sitting on the table..
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Reply #71 - Sep 8th, 2013 at 8:47pm
 
lookin good sandy, you can even see the hurri lines showing up.  they didn't get that way in a hurri though.

and that little battery won't cut it.  jon's 109 will be chewing on the tail feathers.  Grin
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Reply #72 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 6:33pm
 
doubt if that pack would even spin the prop - probably something like a 22x10 3 blade is scale...that I'll get figured in about 2 years...
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Reply #73 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 8:37pm
 
did you see the atv news tonight?  a full scale hurricane from vintage wings is in saint john for a ceremony there in the morning honoring nb floors killed during ww2.  great looking airplane and if I was a bit younger I'd drive up to see it.
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Reply #74 - Sep 10th, 2013 at 8:11am
 
that would be sweet, and if I wasn't having a colon thingy tomorrow  Margaree Night I'd thnk about going....
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Yes Al, how many nb floors were killed during WWII? Huh  Grin Grin
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that's what you get when you type on a tablet with auto correct.  Grin
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now you sea, Eye was just two polite to point that oat...  Grin
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Reply #78 - Nov 13th, 2013 at 11:41am
 
I know it's wayyyy early  What Was That, but looking for source of 1/5 scale WWII British pilot figure......with that I can monkey around with a cockpit while I carve stringers.... Gossip
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Reply #79 - Dec 2nd, 2013 at 10:41am
 
and since the reply to the request for a pilot received such overwhelming response, I'm also looking for some carbon fibre cloth....

want to make a frame for the canopy so I can maybe make it openable (opener, decloser, sliderabile)
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