Welcome to our Forum, Guest.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the Help/FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions. You may have to Login or Register, before you can post: click the register link below to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.


Welcome to the Avon RC Flyer's Forum.


Random Quote: Aural Sex produces eargasms

Gallery Home Page
 
NEWS:
See our new field weather station!
  Home Weather Network Avon Field Weather Field Wind Speed Field Orientation Gallery Home Gallery Pictures MembersLoginRegisterAwardsQuizzesGuestbookContactHelp  
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20 (Read 22,931 times)
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:11pm
 
Hey guys, gonna be stuck at home for a couple of weeks so I ordered this baby to keep me busy..
http://www.horizonhobby.com/product/storefronts/almost-ready-to-fly/hangar-9-bra...

any help with the DLE20 installation would be appreciated Silly Aviator
http://www.dle-engines.com/dleg0020.html

Cool

should a 14oz fuel tank be sufficient, an what kind of flight time would this give me? Huh
Back to top
« Last Edit: Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:17pm by JackDD »  
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #1 - Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:29pm
 
I'm thinking a 2500ma 4.8v NiCd for the ignition Battery, with a standard Rx LiFe battery for the Rx and High torque servos.. Both I already have ...
Cool
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Fingers
YaBB Moderator
I still got all five!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Yesterday
Join: Mar 22nd, 2010

Posts: 3,088
Reputation: 0

Dartmouth
Gender: male
Zodiac sign: Virgo
Awards: 3
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers MemberTop Poster Award

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #2 - Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:38pm
 
Don't know the flight times on that engine Jack, but I read the comments on the Hanger 9 site. Change the hardware  (clevises and tail  wheel) and make sure you wick some thick CS into every joint you can get to. Landing gear plate seems to be the usual "land 4 times it comes apart" item common with so many ARF's

Looks like a good plane..
Back to top
  

Karma is everything
 
IP Logged
 
Glen
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Yesterday
Join: Aug 5th, 2011

Posts: 441
Reputation: 2

Sackville
Gender: male
Zodiac sign: Pisces
Awards: 2
Combat Scale Gas/Glow AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #3 - Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:55pm
 
Jack, mount the engine like a regular glow engine. Take the ignition and wrap it in neoprene or foam, that's all it takes.
Mine runs so good it isn't funny. I would recommend a quick break in of a couple of heat / cool cycles, just a few minutes each run with a little extra oil (I think they recommend 20:1) and away you go.
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Fingers
YaBB Moderator
I still got all five!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Yesterday
Join: Mar 22nd, 2010

Posts: 3,088
Reputation: 0

Dartmouth
Gender: male
Zodiac sign: Virgo
Awards: 3
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers MemberTop Poster Award

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #4 - Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:58pm
 
Also Jack, that engine you can run with a single life battery. run the ignition from i of the leads, and the Rx from another. 2200 LiFe will run all day.
Back to top
  

Karma is everything
 
IP Logged
 
dano
Aerobatic Pilot
The Avon Splish Splash!!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Feb 25th, 2020
Join: Jul 7th, 2011

Posts: 429
Reputation: 0

Kingston, NS
Gender: male
Awards: 2
Combat Scale Gas/Glow AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #5 - Aug 14th, 2016 at 4:03pm
 
Hi Jack,

Nice to see you make the leap....
With gas power you will need to always consider vibration when installing your equipment.

- use blue loctite on all engine mounting hardware

-when using manual choke the pushrod comes out the front cowl (easiest way) or you can go with a servo to choke it.

-you will need a means to kill the ignition remotely ie; opti kill
  switch (electronic switch between ignition and RX) Thunderbolt
  sells them. This is a major safety consideration. Someday you
  will be Really Happy you have it.....

-make sure engine/oil mix as per manufacturer's instructions
  for break in.

-the cap/plug in the gas tank needs to be gas compatible.
confirm that it is. If not, Dubro  (brown) is gas comp.

-decide if you want a 2 or 3 line fuel system for the tank. If
  you choose 2 you will need a T fitting cut into the carb line for
  fuelling.

- You will need a fuel DOT. (fitting at the fuelling point).

-Separate battery pack for the ignition. Some guys use an IBEC
  which shares RX batts   some guys keep ignition batts
  separate from RX

-RTV silicone for muffler gasket. Fibre gasket promotes the
loosening of the mounting bolts. If loosens, re-tighten when
engine is hot. Use blue loctite as well

A rule of thumb on gas consumption is an ounce a minute. Of course this depends on how savage you get with the throttle.....

Of course there are other things but you will pick this up when flying with others at the field.

Have Fun......
Back to top
  

Dan Marchand
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 6:07am
 
Wow, thanks for the info guys, definitely going to use two batteries and will get the engine kill switch.
Sandy I also read the RCGroups thread and will beef up all the bad spots, tail wheel is also a problem.

Glen, I suppose the insulation is for the vibration good point, also have ordered a metal engine mount .

Dan, do you use the silicone instead of the gasget? Will go with the 3 line fuel tank and already have the the gas stopper...

I'll keep you posted
Smiley Cool
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
dano
Aerobatic Pilot
The Avon Splish Splash!!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Feb 25th, 2020
Join: Jul 7th, 2011

Posts: 429
Reputation: 0

Kingston, NS
Gender: male
Awards: 2
Combat Scale Gas/Glow AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 4:47pm
 
Sorry Jack, yes the RTV silicone replaces the gasket.
Do not use the fibre gasket.
Back to top
  

Dan Marchand
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 5:47pm
 
Smiley WEEEEE
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #9 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 3:06pm
 
Oyea oyea oyea Cheesy Cool
Back to top
  

DSCN0940.JPG (442 KB | 298 )
DSCN0940.JPG
 
IP Logged
 
Fingers
YaBB Moderator
I still got all five!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Yesterday
Join: Mar 22nd, 2010

Posts: 3,088
Reputation: 0

Dartmouth
Gender: male
Zodiac sign: Virgo
Awards: 3
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers MemberTop Poster Award

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #10 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:21pm
 
. Smiley
Back to top
  

Karma is everything
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #11 - Aug 19th, 2016 at 10:26am
 
Some beefing up with gorilla glue...
Back to top
  

DSCN0943.JPG (447 KB | 298 )
DSCN0943.JPG
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #12 - Aug 19th, 2016 at 10:27am
 
Ailerons already glued in Grin thanks Hanger 9...
Back to top
  

DSCN0944.JPG (450 KB | 331 )
DSCN0944.JPG
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #13 - Aug 19th, 2016 at 10:29am
 
finishing Gorilla process now on to Varnish, actually some already applied, but more would be better...
Back to top
  

DSCN0941.JPG (440 KB | 316 )
DSCN0941.JPG
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #14 - Aug 20th, 2016 at 10:46am
 
Here's the first question, should I file out the engine mount so as to line up with existing holes, need about a 1/4' or drill new engine mount holes with a new firewall piece of plywood?
Back to top
  

DSCN0947.JPG (460 KB | 304 )
DSCN0947.JPG
DSCN0946.JPG (445 KB | 312 )
DSCN0946.JPG
 
IP Logged
 
dano
Aerobatic Pilot
The Avon Splish Splash!!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Feb 25th, 2020
Join: Jul 7th, 2011

Posts: 429
Reputation: 0

Kingston, NS
Gender: male
Awards: 2
Combat Scale Gas/Glow AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #15 - Aug 20th, 2016 at 2:25pm
 
Whenever pre-drilled holes don't line up with your own mount it's a practice for many to epoxy in dowels into unused holes and drill new one's that do line up with your mount.
Unless I'm mistaken, I think that's the point of your question....
Back to top
  

Dan Marchand
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #16 - Aug 20th, 2016 at 4:13pm
 
Very Diplomatic of you Dan... Roll Eyes yes your right,  Smiley there is way to much difference in the mounts to do this
Any other way Wink
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
MkIX
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


One seat, one engine,
guns....

LastOn: Jan 31st, 2024
Join: Jan 29th, 2012

Posts: 320
Reputation: 1

Bedford
Gender: male
Zodiac sign: Aries
Awards: 2
Combat Scale Gas/Glow AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #17 - Aug 20th, 2016 at 5:02pm
 
Way to go Jack.  Here I am fussing on the sidelines about converting to gas; perhaps I need to take a page from your book and just do it.

I've been reading about the DLE 20; it gets good reviews. 

Question....where do the guns go????
Back to top
  

Mike P.   Warbirds just look cool!
 
IP Logged
 
JackDD
Club Member
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Apr 18th, 2024
Join: Apr 25th, 2010

Posts: 541
Reputation: 0

Gender: male
Awards: 2
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers Member

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #18 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 9:44am
 
Yes Mike, I have the right engine and a beautiful plane, but the engine mounts are a problem..
Glen what engine mount did you use to install your motors?

The cowl clearance is 5.5" and the engine length is greater than that Shocked Sad
Back to top
  
 
IP Logged
 
Fingers
YaBB Moderator
I still got all five!
Your a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a StarYour a Star
Offline


Forum User

LastOn: Yesterday
Join: Mar 22nd, 2010

Posts: 3,088
Reputation: 0

Dartmouth
Gender: male
Zodiac sign: Virgo
Awards: 3
Post 2Yr AwardAvon RC flyers MemberTop Poster Award

Mood:

Show the link to this post Re: Hanger 9 Sbach 342 with DLE20
Reply #19 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 11:10am
 
One way to address that Jack is to cut an opening in the firewall large enough to take the engine and mounts. Make a plywood spacer ( hollow ring/hollow rectangle) around the hole thick enough to go inside deep enough to give you the clearance, and put a new fire wall on the BACK of the spacer. When the engine is mounted on this firewall it will stick out less.... Huh Sign
don't know if that makes any sense at all....
Back to top
  

Karma is everything
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 
Facebook Twitter Google Digg del.icio.us reddit Linked in MySpace StumbleUpon Yahoo
Send Topic Print

Link to This Topic