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Apr 29th, 2013 at 6:58pm
 
I've decided to re-cover my Ultra Sport.  I've removed the old MonoKote and just for a test I decided to try and get some new covering to stick to the old balsa.  It didn't work very well...rats!  There's enough oil in the wood that it really doesn't stick very well.

So now I'm wondering what I should do to treat the balsa so that it will allow the MonoKote to stick?
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Reply #1 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:13pm
 
Mike, an old method was a deep container - half fill with kitty litter, put in fuse - complete with kitty litter - let stand for couple weeks/months/daze/years.... will remove a lot of the oil. Repeat as required.

try and find the fibrous litter rahter than the gravelly stuff..

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Reply #2 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:19pm
 
Thanks Sandy.  I hadn't thought of kitty litter, but I did try baby powder.  I used to store the elastic bands that held the wing to the fuse in a can of baby powder to get the oil out.  So I tried covering the wood with baby powder.  It smelled nice, but didn't stick any better Embarrassed

If I had some BalsaRight around I'd give that a go but I don't think its available any more.

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Reply #3 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:38pm
 
What do you think would happen if I were to try to clean the oil off by rubbing with acetone or isopropanol?

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Reply #4 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:46pm
 
Hi Mike
I used to used Baby Powder with heat from the iron .
You can get a lot of oil out with an iron an a Kleenex. If you put the Iron right on the Balsa the oil comes out. Be ready with the Kleenex to wipe it away. You can also place the Kleenex on the Balsa wood and the iron on top and let it soak in
Sometimes you just have to replace some of the worst spots with new Balsa.
Also the new Monokote does not stick as well as the old stuff.
I believe Ultracote sticks better.
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Reply #5 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:49pm
 
I don't believe that will draw it out of the wood Mike.  Some people have had good results with cornstarch.  Like you mentioned I always used Balsarite.

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Reply #6 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 7:53pm
 
Just found this on another thread under RC Tips. Balsa Soaked Wood
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Reply #7 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:03pm
 
all the same.....both work. I'd forgotten the kleenex trick, mostly because wifey wouldn't let me use all the kleenex - cats we never had, noses we always did.. Huh Sign

Balsarite isn't available much any more, shipping regulations I hear....after one or both of the above treatments, saturate the frame with clear dope, it acts as an advesive as well....then irin on top of that..
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Reply #8 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:31pm
 
Thanks Grant and Bruce

I think I'll play with a combination of Grant's suggestions and the stuff on the thread that Bruce provided.  This shouldn't become too much of a problem as most of the model didn't soak up any oil.

I'll apply heat with baby powder and paper towels to try and soak up as much of the oil as I can.  Hopefully that will do the trick.
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Reply #9 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:45pm
 
Thanks Sandy

I like the idea of applying clear dope.  I could try to get as much oil out as possible and then apply some clear dope.
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Reply #10 - Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:46pm
 
So who sells clear dope these days????
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By the look of Sandy's Emotion Icon, I would say Sandy. Grin
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MkIX wrote on Apr 29th, 2013 at 8:46pm:
So who sells clear dope these days????



I got my last can, last fall, from Great Hobbies...at the time John told me he couldn't get it..

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Reply #13 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 9:36am
 
Here you go Mike.

Dope Link

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Reply #14 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 9:48am
 
actually Mike, I have 2 cans of clear - you can have one if you'd like....
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Reply #15 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 9:51am
 
The Sanding Sealer looks good.  Certainly a whole lot less expensive than the clear dope.


Today I spent a little time with the iron, heating up the wet surfaces bringing the oil to the surface.  Then I wiped the oil off with a paper towel.  It seemed to work rather well (thanks Grant).  Then I tried ironing on a small piece of covering and it stuck a whole lot better than prior to removing most of the oil, but not as good as if it were on perfectly clean balsa.  Perhaps, afer I apply the sanding sealer, I'll be good to go.
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Reply #16 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 9:52am
 
Hi Sandy:

Wow, that's generous.  How about I borrow one can, use what I need, and then return the rest to you?

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Reply #17 - May 3rd, 2013 at 7:00pm
 
Now I have another question....

I'd like to make some MonoKote decals to apply some lettering to the upper surface of port wing....something polite Smiley

Should I just cut the letters out with a #10 blade, or is there an easier way to get custom lettering?
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Reply #18 - May 3rd, 2013 at 8:44pm
 
I may have found the answer.  I'll give this a try.

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24535&highlight=301
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Reply #19 - May 12th, 2013 at 9:27pm
 
I've managed to get MonoKote to stick to my model. Smiley  I used a combination of Grant's suggestion to use heat followed by paper towel to get out the oil, and an application of Balsarite on the affected areas.  Seems to work just fine.

I have the fuse almost complete.  I'll post a pic once I have it covered but before I apply the details.
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