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Finally decided what to build..
Any1 have a spare .91 lying around... Smiley
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Reply #1 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 10:19am
 
Nice plane, Jack!
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Reply #2 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
Still Have the Black 1 Half completed, But wanted to go fly soon...I have a asp .91 coming, hope it not too light... Smiley
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Reply #3 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 1:39pm
 
Nice model Jack.
Will you have functioning retracts?
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Reply #4 - Dec 10th, 2012 at 8:44pm
 
Yep E-flite Electrikery with scale pumatic oleo's.. Wink
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Reply #5 - Dec 11th, 2012 at 9:51am
 
super looking plane Jack....... yet another war bird... Angry
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Reply #6 - Dec 12th, 2012 at 11:49pm
 
One seat, one engine, and guns....it looks great!
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Reply #7 - Dec 12th, 2012 at 11:50pm
 
Well, actually it has two seats but it would be possible to fly it with only one seat occupied.
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Reply #9 - Dec 22nd, 2012 at 7:51am
 
The Plane's in..Gotta go Pick it up for the Tree.
I have the Engine also...10 Days Via Cathay Pacific Grin

Now where are all my tools.. Shocked

Cant seem to post pic will start a pic thread on Picassa Sad

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Does that mean it will be under the tree built ?
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Reply #11 - Dec 23rd, 2012 at 9:11am
 
That's my Xmas wish, glen...are you offering?
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I do have to open said box, to verify if their is any damage, you understand Smiley  Grin
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Reply #12 - Dec 23rd, 2012 at 11:12am
 
I have the same ASP 91 in a Hangar 9 Spitfire and it is a real sweetheart.  Don't expect big power but it purrs like a kitten, holds a tune well, starts very well and it has a great reliable low idle.
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ooh, ooh ooh is it done yet?? Wink

Just kidding Jack. This looks like a sweet plane..
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Reply #14 - Dec 23rd, 2012 at 12:32pm
 
Ramzz wrote on Dec 23rd, 2012 at 11:12am:
I have the same ASP 91 in a Hangar 9 Spitfire and it is a real sweetheart.  Don't expect big power but it purrs like a kitten, holds a tune well, starts very well and it has a great reliable low idle.


Great News Mark, do you have any Video..?
Is the Butterfly thingy, on the back, the Choke?
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Reply #15 - Dec 23rd, 2012 at 1:33pm
 
Well I peeked in the Box Sad
Little bit of Damage on the Under wing Hardpoints..Have to Call Chuckie from Buffalo Air, to give me a hand...He can fix anything.. Roll Eyes

On a good note Seagull already glued the Servo mounts on for me.. Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Dec 24th, 2012 at 11:06am
 
Repaired the Damage, no Biggy.. Cheesy

I'm pretty impressed with Seagull they actually have 2 position for each Flap servo, for installation depending whether you have a servo reverser or not...Also holes for each control horn are drilled, depending which 1 you need to use.. Shocked
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Without reverser..
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Reply #18 - Dec 25th, 2012 at 9:40am
 
Wings, with Ordnance...
They had a lot of Fin Damage..More Glue Shocked

Biggest Scud Missile I've ever seen..Watch out Fingers... Roll Eyes
Not a Sidewinder for sure Cool
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Right side..
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Business end...
I could get the 26cc in if I tried hard, Lots of room.. Smiley
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That's nice!  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Yak Man wrote on Dec 25th, 2012 at 11:07am:
That's nice!  Smiley Smiley Smiley

Geez Al, Its Big...That a 6ft Table its on...

Here's 1 for you Al, what should I do Here...Its the Choke needle..? Huh
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Reply #23 - Dec 25th, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
yup that's the choke needle - the upper one that is.

some 4 strokes will start fine without choking, but you'd have to try it to find out  Huh otherwise you'll have to find a cool place to punch a big hole through the side of your cowl  Angry

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What a looker.
You'l be top gun with that warbird...
Nice plane Jack.
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Reply #25 - Dec 25th, 2012 at 3:25pm
 
Haha...

Pretty near done, will post some pics with the BAF Roundelles on later..
Dan, what do you think of the hobby king Elec Retracts here...
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Jack, you couldn't not go with retracts on a plane like that!
The retracts look robust and should stand up.
The price makes them a real bargain.
Looking forward to seeing it...
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JackDD wrote on Dec 25th, 2012 at 11:35am:
Yak Man wrote on Dec 25th, 2012 at 11:07am:
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Yep, Fingers nailed it.  Just don't use the choke. If you have a problem getting it wet to start, then just tap on the end of the muffler when it's spinning on a starter to wet it. It will go!  Smiley
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Reply #28 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:13pm
 
Yep, It'll be a pain with 2 holes there... Wink

What prop size do I need to Break this Baby in, Guys Roll Eyes
A three blade would look cool... Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 10:20pm
 
Hey Jack:  That looks exactly like my PC9.  I'm using the ASP 120 and was thinking of using an inverted pitts muffler so I wouldn't have to cut up the side of the cowl.  Are you using the standard muffler, and if so, will you have to cut the side of the cowl?

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Reply #30 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:10am
 
Hi Jack
Nice looking plane.
Don't have an ASP but on our 91's OS and YS we found the 13 10 prop to be the best. I believe they say a 13 8 for the ASP
On my old YS 91 I went as high as a 14 12 but the 14 10 worked a lot better . If I can remember correctly the OS was happier on the 13 10.

Kevin was here yesterday and remarked about that nylon or plastic engine mount. We use metal mounts instead .If your engine shows any sign of vibration you might want to use a metal mount.
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Reply #31 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 7:39am
 
Ok Grant, 1'll go the 13*8 to start, better ground clearance also...I thought about the mount, I will watch it closely. Are you concerned about it cracking? Huh

Bruce, I'm just going with the side muffler for now, the Hole should be aft of the Turbine Exhaust. I'll post pics of the cowl tonight. Where's your Pics.. Huh
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Reply #32 - Dec 27th, 2012 at 8:33am
 
Hi Jack
I don't think it will ever crack or break, but we have found anything around 91 and up there is so much movement (Flexing) Yours might be a stiffer material but as you put more load on the engine (Bigger Prop)they tend to move around. The only problem with a metal mount is you transfer all that motion to your plane.
I soft mount anything over a 91
Kevin uses hard mounts and never seems to have a problem.
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Reply #33 - Dec 28th, 2012 at 9:24am
 
Hi Grant,
The engine mounts looks like Teflon to me not plastic.
what should I do here for the exhaust hole in the cowl? Huh
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Reply #34 - Dec 28th, 2012 at 10:49am
 
Hi Jack
Probably not enough.It would be good idea to run that new motor without the cowl at least for a couple of runs. That way the motor won't get to hot on the first run and will have a chance to cool down quicker. Then you will  be able to see how much the engine is going to move.
On my shaky engines I always leave at least 3/8 around anything that comes out of the cowl.
If the engine head hits or muffler it can make an awful mess
on a fiberglass cowl.
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Reply #35 - Dec 28th, 2012 at 12:36pm
 
Yes I Plan to do that without the cowl on this weekend, and I have enlarged the hole significantly, but what do you suggest I do, Shocked install the cowl then screw on the muffler, then try to tighten,  Roll Eyesor install the muffler, then try to fit the cowl over and elliptical muffler hole? Huh

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Reply #36 - Dec 28th, 2012 at 1:04pm
 
Hi Jack
This has always been a problem.
I installed a tunnel and a small pipe to get around  that problem on the P 47.
My Ulitmate have the standard muffler and also my Yak.
In the Yak I was able to install a Pitts style muffler but I still have to take of the silicon tube to take the cowl of.
On my Ulitmate  I screw the muffler on after the cowl is in place. The  fiberglass flexes enough that I can do this
I then use that 700 Degree silicon and hope my muffler does not come off.
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Ok Grant, Plan "B" then Install Muffler after Cowl. Shocked

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Okay Red or Black spinner Guys?
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Definitely black IMHO; however, if it was my plane, I would paint the spinner pink. (but thats just me  Smiley)

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Red is good IMO
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Black!
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Well, it's not going to be pink, we have a serious Warbird here.. Roll Eyes
Red is too close to pink, so Black it is... Wink

I'm not going to use the plastic Red one supplied, it'll fly off in a minute.. Cool
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Good choice on the spinner, Jack. Nice plane!
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Definitely black IMHO; however, if it was my plane, I would paint the spinner pink. (but thats just me  Smiley)

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Well I guess Aluminium wins...
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Nice plane Jack!!! You'll probably want to change your engine mount. I found that the ones that come with Seagull arfs flex too much which can cause problems later on.
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The spinner looks about 1/2" too small Jack. What size is it, and what's the specs on the plane overall?

On Jon's and I, we are starting off with a18x10 or even a 19x12 APC e-prop!!! Smiley.
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It's a 3" I believe Dan, I Might be wrong, with a 13*8 prop, But I only have the ASP.91 in her.
What would you recommend?

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hey guys have my Elec retracts, does anyone have some pics, with recommendations for the nose wheel steering? Huh I don't want to use push pull wires, they are problematic...
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Nosewheel steering arm...
Wheel retracts toward the signal cable... Smiley
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Nice Jack,

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Nice looking gear!  Question, how did you get the nose one to stand up like that? Wink lol
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Haha...you think if I could get the nose wheel to stand up by itself, I should be able to rig some steering up... Roll Eyes
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Hey, Al
I've decided not to use this retract set, the nose wheel is to short, and cant be extended... Cry
I'm going to order a set of these, or the main units only, then put a standard set of legs and wheels on. Shocked
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Still havn't decided what oleo set to put on..Any1 have experience with these RC Landers sets? Huh
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http://www.altecare.com/struts.htm

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Thanks Guys, This basic Tri unit here, seems to fit the bill...
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Can't go wrong with struts from Robart.
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gees, Dan I'd like to compare, but they don't seem to have it all there yet...
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Had a problem ordering a part (Electric Actuator).
I email them and they responded with the correct part number . It didn't show it in there parts but they did have it.
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Thanks Grant, I've ordered an Electric set from HK anyway, as I have a us limit switch on the E-Flite  nosewheel on the Jackal anyway. Sad
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Finally got round to flying the Tucano, as expected, it flew very well..
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"Bring her Home Daddy" ??  Was that a porno or a Seagull Super Tucano Landing??? Grin Grin Grin
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I'll pass that on to fran,  Roll Eyes
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Krikey those hills were close.
Love the colour scheme Smiley
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