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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #20 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 10:48am Business end... I could get the 26cc in if I tried hard, Lots of room..
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Yak Man Club Member Galactic Twinkie Jet Pilot Extraordinaire Offline Forum User LastOn: Apr 21^st, 2024 Join: Mar 23^rd, 2010 Posts: 1,000 Reputation: 0 Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 5 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #21 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 11:07am That's nice!
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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #22 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 11:35am Yak Man wrote on Dec 25^th, 2012 at 11:07am: That's nice! Geez Al, Its Big...That a 6ft Table its on... Here's 1 for you Al, what should I do Here...Its the Choke needle..?
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Fingers YaBB Moderator I still got all five! Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Mar 22^nd, 2010 Posts: 3,088 Reputation: 0 Dartmouth Gender: Zodiac sign: Awards: 3 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #23 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 1:26pm yup that's the choke needle - the upper one that is. some 4 strokes will start fine without choking, but you'd have to try it to find out otherwise you'll have to find a cool place to punch a big hole through the side of your cowl
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dano Aerobatic Pilot The Avon Splish Splash!! Offline Forum User LastOn: Feb 25^th, 2020 Join: Jul 7^th, 2011 Posts: 429 Reputation: 0 Kingston, NS Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #24 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 3:11pm What a looker. You'l be top gun with that warbird... Nice plane Jack.
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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #25 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 3:25pm Haha... Pretty near done, will post some pics with the BAF Roundelles on later.. Dan, what do you think of the hobby king Elec Retracts here... http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=21162 Jack
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dano Aerobatic Pilot The Avon Splish Splash!! Offline Forum User LastOn: Feb 25^th, 2020 Join: Jul 7^th, 2011 Posts: 429 Reputation: 0 Kingston, NS Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #26 - Dec 25^th, 2012 at 3:38pm Jack, you couldn't not go with retracts on a plane like that! The retracts look robust and should stand up. The price makes them a real bargain. Looking forward to seeing it...
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Re: Seagull Super Tucano
Reply #27 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 9:11am

JackDD wrote on Dec 25^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Yak Man wrote on Dec 25^th, 2012 at 11:07am:

That's nice! Smiley

Geez Al, Its Big...That a 6ft Table its on...

Here's 1 for you Al, what should I do Here...Its the Choke needle..? Huh

Yep, Fingers nailed it. Just don't use the choke. If you have a problem getting it wet to start, then just tap on the end of the muffler when it's spinning on a starter to wet it. It will go!

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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #28 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 4:13pm Yep, It'll be a pain with 2 holes there... What prop size do I need to Break this Baby in, Guys A three blade would look cool...
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Re: Seagull Super Tucano
Reply #30 - Dec 27^th, 2012 at 7:10am

Hi Jack
Nice looking plane.
Don't have an ASP but on our 91's OS and YS we found the 13 10 prop to be the best. I believe they say a 13 8 for the ASP
On my old YS 91 I went as high as a 14 12 but the 14 10 worked a lot better . If I can remember correctly the OS was happier on the 13 10.

Kevin was here yesterday and remarked about that nylon or plastic engine mount. We use metal mounts instead .If your engine shows any sign of vibration you might want to use a metal mount.
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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #31 - Dec 27^th, 2012 at 7:39am Ok Grant, 1'll go the 13*8 to start, better ground clearance also...I thought about the mount, I will watch it closely. Are you concerned about it cracking? Bruce, I'm just going with the side muffler for now, the Hole should be aft of the Turbine Exhaust. I'll post pics of the cowl tonight. Where's your Pics..
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Re: Seagull Super Tucano
Reply #32 - Dec 27^th, 2012 at 8:33am

Hi Jack
I don't think it will ever crack or break, but we have found anything around 91 and up there is so much movement (Flexing) Yours might be a stiffer material but as you put more load on the engine (Bigger Prop)they tend to move around. The only problem with a metal mount is you transfer all that motion to your plane.
I soft mount anything over a 91
Kevin uses hard mounts and never seems to have a problem.
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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #33 - Dec 28^th, 2012 at 9:24am Hi Grant, The engine mounts looks like Teflon to me not plastic. what should I do here for the exhaust hole in the cowl?
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Re: Seagull Super Tucano
Reply #34 - Dec 28^th, 2012 at 10:49am

Hi Jack
Probably not enough.It would be good idea to run that new motor without the cowl at least for a couple of runs. That way the motor won't get to hot on the first run and will have a chance to cool down quicker. Then you will be able to see how much the engine is going to move.
On my shaky engines I always leave at least 3/8 around anything that comes out of the cowl.
If the engine head hits or muffler it can make an awful mess
on a fiberglass cowl.
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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #35 - Dec 28^th, 2012 at 12:36pm Yes I Plan to do that without the cowl on this weekend, and I have enlarged the hole significantly, but what do you suggest I do, install the cowl then screw on the muffler, then try to tighten, or install the muffler, then try to fit the cowl over and elliptical muffler hole? Bemused...
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Re: Seagull Super Tucano
Reply #36 - Dec 28^th, 2012 at 1:04pm

Hi Jack
This has always been a problem.
I installed a tunnel and a small pipe to get around that problem on the P 47.
My Ulitmate have the standard muffler and also my Yak.
In the Yak I was able to install a Pitts style muffler but I still have to take of the silicon tube to take the cowl of.
On my Ulitmate I screw the muffler on after the cowl is in place. The fiberglass flexes enough that I can do this
I then use that 700 Degree silicon and hope my muffler does not come off.
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JackDD Club Member Offline Forum User LastOn: Today Join: Apr 25^th, 2010 Posts: 541 Reputation: 0 Gender: Awards: 2 Mood:	Re: Seagull Super Tucano Reply #37 - Dec 28^th, 2012 at 1:52pm Ok Grant, Plan "B" then Install Muffler after Cowl. Here some more progress, Do you think I have enough Decals on Yet
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