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Message started by Greg G on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:46pm

Title: Legal now
Post by Greg G on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:46pm
Wrote the RPAS exam this afernoon
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Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Greg G on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:51pm
This should be easier to see
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Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Glen on Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:13pm
Greg
You were already legal at the field.

Fresh in from MAAC:

To all MAAC Members,
Re: Transport Canada Gazette II news release of January 10, 2019
We would like to advise you that the anticipated new regulations for Remotely Piloted Aircraft System (RPAS ) have now been published. However, it should be clearly understood that nothing has changed for MAAC members and even though the regulations have now been published, they do not take effect until 1st June 2019. Until that date the Interim Order Respecting the use of Model Aircraft remains in effect, and as this order does not apply to MAAC operations, MAAC members can continue to operate as we always have.
Once the new regulations do come into effect, they will apply to all aircraft without a pilot onboard, whether for recreational or non-recreational purposes. However, be assured that MAAC continues to working with Transport Canada to ensure your current privileges are protected. As we advised you in the last email update, MAAC is working with Transport Canada on an exemption from the new regulations. With this exemption, once the new regulations do come into effect, MAAC members will enjoy the same freedoms they always have. It is expected that the MAAC exemption will be approved well before the new regulations come into effect on 1st June 2019. In the meantime please see the attached letter from Transport Canada, Letter – AARV – MAAC 2019 – 01-09 showing their commitment to these ongoing efforts and the preservation of our privileges.
MAAC leadership continues to work for its members and to ensure that we can all enjoy our passion of operating model aircraft. We will provide additional updates, once we have secured the exemption. Until then, please let me repeat that nothing has changed for MAAC members and you can continue to operate as you always have.
On behalf of the MAAC transport Canada Advisory Group
Peter Schaffer
President - MAAC

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Greg G on Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:36pm
I knew that Glen. Wasn’t challenging the exam to fly at MAAC fields.
Challenged the exam to see if I could pass it. Not a big gamble for $10.
Now that I have it, I can badger a couple buds who have uav’s and no certificate yet ;D Even though they have to June 1 to get them.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Glen on Jan 12th, 2019 at 10:49am
That's pretty funny Greg, might do that myself  ;D

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by JackDD on Feb 6th, 2019 at 11:18am
10 Bucks, Geez, another money grab..I already have 3 licences to fly, how many more do I need.. :o ::) ;D

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Greg Flash G on Feb 25th, 2023 at 10:43pm
Looks like this will now come in handy now. 😤

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Glen on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:03pm
Now you have to get the advanced to fly the big stuff.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Greg Flash G on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:37pm
I don’t have anything over 25kg and no plans in the future.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by MkIX on Feb 26th, 2023 at 7:33pm
What does all this mean?  What do we need to fly our regular fixed wing planes at Windsor?

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Greg Flash G on Feb 26th, 2023 at 8:26pm
I don’t think enough dust has settled to determine exact details. However as it stands now, you will need a RPAS certificate (Transport Canada online exam successfully completed) and each aircraft registered online with transport Canada giving each a registration number to be displayed.
Certainly a disappointing turn of events!


Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Dave Porter on Feb 27th, 2023 at 7:14am
I think for me I’m going to begin the search for a new, less regulated hobby. If we comply with all the new Transport Canada crap they could still pull the rug below our feet anytime for any infraction??? Having been obliged to be under Transport Canada control and regulations for most of my working career I have very little hope for the future of the sport/hobby. My feeling only.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by JackDD on Feb 27th, 2023 at 8:30am
Dave, unfortunately I agree with you, having dealt with them all my Flying career was in most cases confrontational and sour , always dealing with "Inspectors" who were uninformed and lacked reason, quoteing Regs without question, this doesnt bode well.

Has anyone tried registering a plane yet, at $5.0 a plane?

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Raptor on Feb 27th, 2023 at 10:56am
It is going to create a huge mess when everyone tries to register all of their planes , drones , jet , helicopter across Canada . 
Will clubs have to enforce this ?  What happens to the clubs if this gets missed and someone is checked

fun fun fun ,   I see memberships dropping fast , in clubs and MAAC

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by greghatt on Feb 27th, 2023 at 3:24pm
Wow, I just read the letter from MAAC. Pretty awful turn of events for the hobby in general. I also unfortunately know the pitfalls of working with TC. The 5$ registration fee for each model is a real kick in the teeth too, considering the buy/sell nature of the hobby.

Lets hope maac can salvage something before flying season, or it may just be foamies in a park for me.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Dave Porter on Feb 27th, 2023 at 4:22pm
I think that the problem is that MAAC has no control now or in the future. Everything we do from now on will be through Transport Canada.

I hope I’m wrong!!!!

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by KevinM on Feb 27th, 2023 at 5:18pm
Also not to add salt to the wound if you sell/ trade/ destroy or buy another plane you have to report it to TC. also you have to maintain a maintenance log for each aircraft and transmitter and ensure repairs are made by qualified personnel. Sounds just like the gun registry a few years ago.! Also now minimum age to fly is 14 years for basic and 16 yrs for advanced certificate and you must stay current with your certificate by retraining or re-test or completing an on-line self paced study package every three years minimum.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Dave Porter on Feb 27th, 2023 at 7:35pm
Well I swallowed my pride and completed the TC pilot certificate. I’m sure that TC has no concept of flying our planes given their limitations ( planes that is ). Most questions are what I consider way above what we are required to know. That’s the last rant from me I promise. Perhaps????

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Raptor on Feb 27th, 2023 at 7:54pm
Congrats to anyone / everyone who gets the certification

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Fingers on Feb 27th, 2023 at 11:07pm
Got mine today. BUT, cannot understand the relevance of having to know who I would contact to land my helicopter at St. Jerome Quebec Hyro Heliport.

I guessed Maribel and was correct, but really.......?

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by MkIX on Feb 27th, 2023 at 11:58pm
Good stuff Sandy

R the questions multiple choice?

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Dave Porter on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:35am
35 multiple choice questions. one hour to complete. 4 possible answers per question. 

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by greghatt on Feb 28th, 2023 at 7:48am
So, now that everyone has had time to absorb the news, there are some legit questions i do see answered. Such as,

Who is responsible for ensuring each flyer has rpas?
Who will be enforcing said rule?
As far as registration/deregistration goes, who will be enforcing that? Will random TC inspectors be making trips to all the fields to check for compliance?
Who are "qualified" rc plane techs now that can sign off our airplanes to fly?

I know this seems ludicrous to ask, but these are the rules now as I read them, and it doesn't seem there are any clear answers to them. 

I'm not trying to stir the pot, these are just real questions we should probably be asking.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Fingers on Feb 28th, 2023 at 11:28am
All valid questions Greg.

IMHO, and the exec will be sitting down to confer, in the old days you showed the club your MAAC card and you were good to go. Now, you show the club your Pilot Certificate, and you're good to go. The club exec will update the Member list with another Box - TC. That, to me, is the end of our legality.

If TC wants to send an inspector to the field to check if my plane is registered, they're welcome. But I am NOT going to check "your" plane for registration - if there is what seems to be a valid TC number on the plane I'm  happy.

At our level, until TC tells us differently, the flyability of our planes is still subject to the opinion of the instructors at the field. If I don't think your plane is safe, I will still tell you. Won't stop you, but will tell you. I'd expect other fliers to do the same.

Again, my HO, the new TC regs regulate the flying. Avon still exists as an entity, and club rules will still be valid.

Again, all my opinion. Club members will discuss this all ad nauseum and we will arrive at the ground rules for AVIA.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by JackDD on Feb 28th, 2023 at 11:35am
Next thing we will need is a AME Certificate to perform Maintenance i.e. replacing props, glow plugs, wheels. ect , cant wait to see the repair manual for my Chipmunk... it will porobably be from DeHavillands Airframe dept.

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by JackDD on Mar 3rd, 2023 at 1:02pm
Have been on the Drone portal to Register a plane, since yesterday, the portal is down for maintenance, I wonder Why :o
:aviater

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Fingers on Mar 3rd, 2023 at 4:04pm

JackDD wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 11:35am:
Next thing we will need is a AME Certificate to perform Maintenance i.e. replacing props, glow plugs, wheels. ect , cant wait to see the repair manual for my Chipmunk... it will porobably be from DeHavillands Airframe dept.


Oh Erks are all the same!!! QH Whine and bellyache...

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JackDD wrote on Mar 3rd, 2023 at 1:02pm:
Have been on the Drone portal to Register a plane, since yesterday, the portal is down for maintenance, I wonder Why :o
:aviater

  I expect TC will try and expedite getting rid of us.....

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by JackDD on Mar 6th, 2023 at 12:12pm
Managed to Register 3 Models, none of the printed Certificates of Registration actually referred to the type of model, other than to say it was a "Custom Built"?
Good thing I was making notes of which aircraft I was Registering when filling in the Drone WEB Portal,
obtw you need a Govt. of Canada account set up to do this first..

Have fun...
[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] :aviater

HappyJack

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by Fingers on Mar 6th, 2023 at 8:57pm
Is that the SKEY Jack?

Title: Re: Legal now
Post by JackDD on Mar 7th, 2023 at 8:14am
Yes sandy, same one. GCkey

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