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Message started by yorcram on Dec 6th, 2016 at 4:39pm

Title: 50cc gas engine
Post by yorcram on Dec 6th, 2016 at 4:39pm
What make of 50cc (or there abouts) engine do you guys prefer? Looking at idea of a larger plane.

Cheers,
Marc

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Glen on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:27pm
DLE seems to be the most common for that size.
Probably because they're one of the most inexpensive, and are fairly well manufactured.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Fingers on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:34pm
I have 2 TOC53's in the 50cc class, but would have bought DLE had I been smarter. Have a 30 and a 35 in DLE - great engines.
Of course, the TOC's a great engine as well until you have to work on the carb!!! >:( :o

Go DLE!!

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Steve Mosher on Dec 6th, 2016 at 7:45pm
And one more for DLE. Good bang for the buck.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by al on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:42pm
Personally I like astroflight. 

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Fingers on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:51am

al wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Personally I like astroflight.  



gotta speak up, can't hearrrrr youuuuuuu!!  :dead_horse

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by whitey on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:32am
Let's not forget the engine that spurred on all these clones.....The DA 50

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by al on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:54am

Fingers wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:51am:

al wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Personally I like astroflight.  



gotta speak up, can't hearrrrr youuuuuuu!!  :dead_horse



LOL. what you talking about there boy?  Shiny new hearing aids...I can hear you whispering all the way from the city now.  LOL

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Ben Lann on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:16am
DLE

I've owned a 50, 55 and 61 all no issues.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Fingers on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:39am

whitey wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:32am:
Let's not forget the engine that spurred on all these clones.....The DA 50



much more money

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by waverider on Dec 7th, 2016 at 11:36am

al wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Personally I like astroflight.  


just ready for Al or a 4 stroke gasser
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/hawker-hurricane-46-size-ep-gp.html
http://www.greathobbies.com/productinfo/?prod_id=SAIFG11

dont forget the lead in the tail
about a pound should do it (.454Kg)
:)

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by yorcram on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:45pm
Looks like dle is popular. I did look at DA but at almost $900 +tax...

So, 50cc ok for a 25lb 80+ws plane? Or shoukd i look at 55-60cc?

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Glen on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:05pm

al wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
Personally I like astroflight.  


Astroflight ???????
Isn't that the Jetson's dog ?  ;D


Marc, you're in the ballpark with the 50cc in a plane that size. If performance is your thing you could probably go up to as high as an 80cc for outrageous power.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Ben Lann on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:04am

yorcram wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
Looks like dle is popular. I did look at DA but at almost $900 +tax...

So, 50cc ok for a 25lb 80+ws plane? Or shoukd i look at 55-60cc?


As long as the aircraft isn't really heavy I would think a 55 would be ok.

I have a Yak 87" weighing around 19-20 lb with a 55 on a pitts muffler that will do IMAC and mild 3D without any problem.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Fingers on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:33pm
Marc, my small Hurricane of "ESM" fame was 19 pounds and flew great on a 35R, didn't much go over 60  % throttle...

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by dano on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:46am
Mark,
The choice you make now can influence your choices in the future assuming, you want to transfer the engine to other models.

As previously mentioned, the 55cc is an excellent fit for your immediate needs.

However, you could have more flexibility down the road with an engine size slightly larger (61cc).
This size engine (IMHO)can get you over the tipping point of the 55cc class and provide more model choices.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by yorcram on Dec 10th, 2016 at 10:33am
The model i am considering calls for a 35-60cc engine and is about 25lb. It flew on 35cc but was marginal apperantly. Someone built it electric with a 50cc equivalent motor. Stated it was ok but needed a little more for good sport flying.
A 60cc looks like a good idea.

After some of the engine issues I had the past few years i want to stay away from the no name brands but dont know enough about different large engine brands.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by waverider on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:13am
EME 60 or 70 twin (70 is new )
DLE 60 twin
Smoother
If you have space
Eme is developing a good reputation
But the warranty suggests there may still be issues

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by JackDD on Dec 10th, 2016 at 3:14pm
Mark,
Im trying to decide between the dle55ra and the 61cc also, both rear exhaust and comes with pitts style muffler... for a 50cc Extra
I have the dle20 and it starts and ran right out of the Box, literally ::)

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Glen on Dec 10th, 2016 at 8:47pm
told ya Jack :)
Marc, dle, da,eme, mvvs, toc, 3w, zdz, and probably a few I've missed all seem to do pretty good. Dle and eme are probably the most economy minded of the bunch.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by yorcram on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 12:45pm
I ordered a 1/4 scale kit and a DLE61 for next years build ;)

I see in Sandy's hurry (or not so hurried) thread that some are using hitec645 servos. I just ordered 6 from thunderboltrc as they are 25% off.
What else should be used on a 1/4 scale 25lb plane?
Thinking on a power system for safety but need more info/opinions.

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Ramzz on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 11:53am
I have the EME 55 in my Zero without any issues.  Runs and works well but it only has 30 or so flights. 

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Fingers on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 12:35pm

Ramzz wrote on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 11:53am:
I have the EME 55 in my Zero without any issues.  Runs and works well but it only has 30 or so flights.  



once the fuel line is hooked up......just putting that out there..

Title: Re: 50cc gas engine
Post by Fingers on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 12:35pm
Mark, in my HO, the big draw with the power systems is the ability to use 2 battery packs..

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