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Message started by Fingers on Oct 17th, 2012 at 4:20pm

Title: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 17th, 2012 at 4:20pm
Obviously my 50 CC tends to crap out at inopportune moments, usually during contests...while checking things over I found the bearing in the canister exhaust is plugged up and not running smooth any more - any ideas how i can fix this ??  8-)

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Yak Man on Oct 17th, 2012 at 7:19pm
Yep.  It aint gonna be cheap!

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 17th, 2012 at 7:47pm
Man I was kinda thinking the bearing was clogged up because I didn't use prop wash to clean and protect it. But I'm also wondering if it will help if this time I get a ceramic muffler bearing. Expensive I know, but i kinda want to stop this cutting out.
Another thread said I'd have trouble getting the old bearing out, but even more getting the new in.... don't want to be stuck with an upside down bearing  :-/ I guess you have to be pretty careful engaging the pittman return spring  :-?

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Steve Mosher on Oct 17th, 2012 at 8:08pm
I've learned the hard way to use a reverse induction capacitor tube when inserting the pitman return spring ... lost three canister bearings before I heard of this trick. As Al said, it wasn't cheap.  >:( Be sure to use a top quality lubricant. Either of the two below will work well.
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Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 17th, 2012 at 8:20pm
Thanks for the tip on the reverse induction capacitor tube Steve. I'd almost made a big mistake and used a Bi-Phedral Phase Shifter.... man that might have been nasty..the lube advise is super as well..

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Ramzz on Oct 17th, 2012 at 9:10pm
Almost all of my muffler bearings have plugged up in the past.  The trick is to mix sand and metal filings with the fuel...about 5% filings and 3% sand does the trick.  With this mixture, oil is not needed. The filings will deposit a protective coating on the bearings' flux rectifiers and the sand will grand away any excess buildup from previously used, unnecessary 2 stroke oils.  If this doesn't work, try mixing some nitroglycerin in with the fuel...but make sure you get the shock proof nitro glycerin.

As a last resort, you could try changing your ignition timing from 28 degrees before TDC to about 180 degrees before TDC.  This will create a transverse pressure wave that will also help prevent muffler bearing seizures. 


Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 18th, 2012 at 10:39am
I'm glad you specified changing the timing as a last resort Marc....doing that AND using the nitro mix would be a bit extreme....

the other possibility is to get a bearing made from tachyon...should run pretty fast without crapping.

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Ramzz on Oct 18th, 2012 at 8:03pm

Fingers wrote on Oct 18th, 2012 at 10:39am:
I'm glad you specified changing the timing as a last resort Marc....doing that AND using the nitro mix would be a bit extreme....

the other possibility is to get a bearing made from tachyon...should run pretty fast without crapping.


The best bearings are not creamic.  The best bearings are made of unobtanium.

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Ben Lann on Oct 18th, 2012 at 9:56pm
Is it just me or has someone be sniffing the hysol again?

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 19th, 2012 at 11:33am

Ben Lann wrote on Oct 18th, 2012 at 9:56pm:
Is it just me or has someone be sniffing the hysol again?



yes

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 19th, 2012 at 11:37am
unobtanium is better than tachyon?  :o I'd never have guessed that !!

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by JackDD on Oct 20th, 2012 at 2:06pm
I bet you can get that in Hong Kong....
I'll search the Part # if you like... ::)

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Oct 22nd, 2012 at 10:01am
please do that Jack. I know tachyon is available in Switzerland  ;)

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by GreenDragon on Nov 1st, 2012 at 8:32pm
I prefer good 'ol KY.

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Glen on Nov 1st, 2012 at 9:29pm
Funny, you never mentioned that while we were in Margaree.

Title: Re: MY 50cc
Post by Fingers on Nov 2nd, 2012 at 10:12am

Glen wrote on Nov 1st, 2012 at 9:29pm:
Funny, you never mentioned that while we were in Margaree.



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